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Saturday, October 16, 2010

Societal Collapse - Part 2: Poverty, Chronically Ill and Death

Already got a PM on why I decided to post this DEMCAD fella videoing his thoughts on Societal Collapse. One of my reader's sent me the link and asked me to comment on this guy. So I decided to give this guy (DEMCAD) another audience and evaluate his comments.

DEMCAD continues on with Part II of the Collapse of Society. His posting on You Tube created alot of comments concerning the validity of the Government to control disaffected areas. Basically the only way to control a population, other than brute force - which would backfire, would be with incentives such as security, food and water.

His valid points this time are the cities will be a bad place to live - survive. That you would have to get out of the urban areas or other with hihg population densities and this requires a vehicle. This Bug Out would of course require a plan and the timing to execute that plan.

The topic of the spread of diseases is valid. This brings up the long discussed point of being able to deal with refugees in a safe and secure manner. Think about how you are going to handle groups, even large groups of people, who need help and may be sick. Children are going to be, in particular, hard to turn down.

He talks about walking out of a city. Possible,..... but not without planning and preparation,...and don't forget the timing, made possible by tracking your indicators.

Again he talks about people leaving the cities looking for resources and the necessity of having the ability to protect the resources you have.

1 comment:

  1. He's guessing based on worse case. Argentina is a reasonable model of a economic collapse and virtually everything he talks about simply did not happen. Some cities will be problematic or more correctly have pockets of problem areas but most cities will ba as safe as the countryside is. I'm not saying it will be just as safe as today but that it won't be an huge difference and leaving the city won't make you safe. In fact the only real difference is if the bad guy gets you in the country he has more time to do bad things because there is no one around to catch him or stop him.

    An economic collapse will be very much like the great depression. Lots of problems and not enough food and necessities but people will still continue to live their lives and take care of their needs as best they can. As far as disease is concerned unless you are talking about a pandemic and not an economic collapse disease is unlikely to be a major factor. Yes, people who are already seriously ill will be at risk, but healthy people won't just get sick and die.

    One of the problems is knowing what is going to happen. No one knows. We can guess and then guess what the result might be but no one knows.

    One thing this guys forgets as he tries to conflate the New Orleans experience with an economic collapse: Most people did in fact get the hell out of New Orleans and took care of themselves. Most of those who stayed were already on some form of welfare and had never in their lives "taken care of themselves". If you are expecting the government to provide then you will be very disappointed. But the government will most likely do what it can considering the scope of the problem another great depression would cause.

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