UrbanSurvivalSkills.com received the following comment on a post about Emergency Planning,...."Leon said,..... Good info! How about a story on dealing with the people who will come to your door, essentially begging, because they have made no preparations at all?"
UrbanMan replies: Leon, if you have that answer please share it with the rest of us as that is a question we may all have ideas on, but none of us really know what we will do. It's kind of like combat,...you hope you'll react in a certain manner, but don't know until people are shooting at you.
I hope to use good judgement assessing people,....using my 34 years of experience in interacting with indigenous people in third world countries and with law breakers. I hope to have a kind heart as well, extending what help I can, when I can. I have to balance that with not putting an undue burden on my family or place the overall Survival Group at risk.
Another consideration is the peace within your Survival Group. If helping people means putting people in the Survival Group at odds with each other, then you certainly have to consider that. I can see it now where some people may say "If you want to give those stragglers a day's ration, a butane lighter, and a blanket, then go ahead but that's coming out of your stocks,...not mine."
You'll have to have a chain of command or decision making process within your Group. I am the primary decision authority in my Group, but will take the advice of all in my Group. You need to establish this in order to exist and function, working as a team.
I think we are on this earth to evolve as humans,..but to also survive as a species. Sometimes that may mean moving people along. Sometimes that may mean helping people. If I moved people along, I would be prone to tell them "The next time I see them on my street (urban location) or at my gate (my rural safe location), then I'll have to assume that you mean us harm and I will take pre-emptive, lethal action - do I make myself clear?"
Safeguard information as well (OPSEC), do not be discussing your six months of food or whatever in front of people. Next thing you know they band together with 30 mutts and are at your door.
Having said all that, I'll hope to provide alittle bit to anyone who needs it. I would be interviewing people during this process and make a determination if they would be an assets to our Survival Group. If I took them into our Group, I would have had to make "probationary" arrangements to include having someone from the main group watch them all the time. You would have to err on the side of caution and expell anyone who threatened the Group. When you do this, you are going to create an enemy, and an enemy that has inside information on your set up to include weaknesses.
I know this doesn't answer your question very well, but ask me again, six months post collapse and I may have some operational history from which to draw better conclusions.
Thursday, August 5, 2010
Wednesday, August 4, 2010
Urban Survival - Prioritized Procurement on a Small Budget
UrbanSurvivalSkill.com received the following comment through e-mail:…. "Urbanman,....I remember reading a post comment on your urban skills site that someone left saying they only have $30 left over at the end of the month to purchase survival stuff. Can you reply to this?"
UrbanMan replies: First thing I would do is to compile of list of all your Survival assets. This would include, but not be limited to: Camping Equipment, stored food, firearms, tools, skill sets. Then consider what the threats are to you and your family. This may include utilities shut off, shortage of food, lack of transportation, physical threats from criminal groups or even just from bands of starving - desperate people.
You need to have Bug Out Plan on where you will go to be safer. This may be in fact, several locations. Even if you plan on Buggin In or staying in place, you still need to have a Bug Out plan. The reasons for this, is that it will affect your Survival Gear, Equipment and Supplies (food, etc.) procurement plan.
One common piece of advice for low order procurement,…spending minimal funds on a periodic procurement plan,…is to say, but $5 to $7 of rice/beans one week, then buy $5 to $7 of powdered milk the next,…and so on. The problem with this, although it is a planned and scheduled procurement, is that if the collapse hits somewhere during your procurement process, there will be somethings you will be missing.
I suggest that after you figure out what you current have in Survival Equipment and Material, then you make a list and prioritize that list. If you have to save 3 or 4 weeks to make a purchase, then so be it.
My priorities for just starting out would be firearms for protection and food. Water has to be extremely high on the list as you can’t live without it for more than a couple days. Completion of Bug Out Bags with the necessary equipment and material to get you from your present location to your safe location would be a priority as well.
If you had firearms for protection and Survival Bug Out Bags completed to support a withdrawal from your present home/location to your safe location, then the next hole to fill would probably be sufficient food/water stocks to survive a collapse (gradual or sudden) at your present location and/or to cache at your intended safe location. Having a sufficient supply of food and water at your home gives you more time to make a decision to Bug Out. The trick will be to make a timely decision and not stay too long. – See the Armageddon Videos at the top left side of this page.
On a small budget you can procure food stocks fairly easily. Rice, beans, boullion cubes, powdered milk, canned fruit, peanut butter, instant potatoes, oatmeal, nuts would all be high on my list. Salt, Sugar, Brown sugar are important as well, but maybe not as important than the actual foods. $5 a week is pretty minimal as it may only buy about 10 lbs of rice or 8 lbs of beans. One of the things a family I know did to prep was to save their pocket change and after six months they had almost $200 converted at the bank to paper money which they in turn spent at Wal-Mart for food supplies.
I hesitate providing a list of what you need to buy, since you need to do a Survival Equipment and Material survey of what you have, then develop your Survival plan including a Bug Out plan in order to determine what else you need. Good Luck.
Monday, August 2, 2010
Urban Survival Operational Security - Reader Comments
UrbanSurvivalSkills.com received the following comment under the Chris Martenson post,......"Anonymous said..... Interesting...If I were preparing for "the pending collapse," (looking through the eyes of the adversary) I would be targeting sites like this and finding out who the owners of such sites and map it out are (home addresses and such). That is how I would plan on "the pending collapse." The research would not take me long and cost little to nothing if at that. I know you cannot divulge allot of your survival information for evil doers with that mindset (they are out there), but I just thought I throw it out there for us readers who think the best of people."
UrbanMan Replies: I agree that developing information on prominent people who advertise Survival preparation, or some sort of Collapse preparedness, would be fairly easy to do. As far as targeting them (and them would include me) for their survival stocks would of course be possible, but people who would do this are 1 - committing a criminal act, and 2 – are cowards. Cowards would tend to seek easier targets. I guarantee you that me and mine are not easy targets. I fully expect to have at least four and maybe six people, who carry guns for a living, residing at my location just before and through a collapse. When I add family members who know how to use a weapons, then add my prepared neighbors into the mix, I have a great start for local security.
I know another group of shooters who just happen, not by design, to live in four houses adjacent to each other. They all carry guns for a living also. Each family are preppers and expect several people from their organization to rally there just before or after a collapse.
Many people, neighbors and others, know who these guys are, but I am sure they would be last people chosen to be hit for their Survival Gear, Equipment and Material….just too hard a target,…and refer back to my earlier paragraph criminals are cowards, and as desperate as they may be, will still choose to hit the easy targets.
Having said all of the above, your Operational Security (OPSEC) plans and practices must be developed to support controlling any information you do not want exposed. If you are going to be educating your friends and family on Survival Preparation you are going to be exposing critical information. You can still keep as much information covered as possible,..how much food you have stored, firearms and ammunition types and amounts, etc.
I think that most of us Survival planners have considered strap hangers and not only how we are going to deal with them, but if we incorporate them into your group how are we going to feed and supply them. This contingency has manifested itself into my Survival Preparations as in creased stocks of basic needs. I can handle additional people, but even then would be choosing the right people.
So in ending, I just did not know how to take your comment,…as a threat?,..or a warning?,..or just a tip? I going to consider it a reminder to consider OPSEC in all I do and ask readers to do likewise. Be careful when you private message other people on Survival forums as well.
Eyeryone stay safe. Stay ready.
Sunday, August 1, 2010
Urban Survival Preparation - Chris Martenson's Blog
UrbanSurvivalSkills.com recently found a new and good site to visit. www.chrismartenson.com
It seems it is becoming more and more mainstream to have some type of preparation in place for, what we call "the pending collapse" and what others call "possible disruptions in society or the economy".
Chris Martenson does not bill himself as an economist. He tells people that he's a trained research scientist, and a former Fortune 300 VP. Most importantly, though he notes,....he's a concerned citizen.
Chris says that the next twenty years are going to look very different from the last twenty years. It is a worth a look at his site, http://www.chrismartenson.com/
Martenson talks about "Self Resilience". About having good water sources,...about being able to grow your own food.....about making our lives easier and just plain simple.
I like what I read on this site especially when he talks about for preparing for societal or economic disruptions,....that there is night and day difference between "being zero percent self-reliant and 3 percent".
This rings true to me since I field alot of questions from people on "Survival Preparation" and many of them decide not to get prepared in any form or fashion believing that they are either too late to get started, or whatever they do won't be enough,....so why bother?. Yeah, I know a defeatist attitude when I see it, but as I learned in my business, "You can't want it more than they do".
I posted pieces of what Chris writes below:
"What should I do?"
It can feel pretty personally overwhelming to learn about all the economic, environmental, and energy challenges in store for us for the rest of this century. There's plenty of work to be done by governments and businesses, sure—but what about preparing yourself and your family for this quickly changing world? The choices seem overwhelming. Where does one begin?
Six years ago, I began to address these questions for myself and my family. I'll be honest; my first motivation came from a place of fear and worry. I worried that I could not predict when and where an economic collapse might begin. I fretted that the pace of the change would overwhelm the ability of our key social institutions and support systems to adapt and provide. I darkly imagined what might happen if a Katrina-sized financial storm swept through the banking system. I was caught up in fear.
But I am no longer in that frame of mind. Here, six years later, I am in a state of acceptance about what the future might bring (although I am concerned), and I have made it my life's work to help others achieve a similar measure of peace. While I am quite uncertain about what might unfold and when, I am positive that anyone can undertake some basic preparations relatively cheaply and will feel better for having done so.
I am passionately interested in helping others to gracefully adapt their lifestyles and adjust their expectations to a very different-looking sort of future. I have no interest in scaring you further, or having you approach the future with trepidation, anxiety, or fear. Quite the opposite. I want to let you know that adjusting and adapting can be one of the most rewarding and fulfilling journeys you could undertake. It has been so for our family.
Just so you have a sense of the scope and the pace of these changes in our lives, I should mention that in 2003 I was a VP at a Fortune 300 company, forty-two years of age with three young children (the oldest was nine), living in a six-bedroom waterfront house, and by every conventional measure I had it all. Today I no longer have that house, that job, or that life. My "standard of living" is a fraction of what it formerly was, but my quality of life has never been higher. We live in a house less than half the size of our former house, my beloved boat is gone, and we have a garden and chickens in the backyard.
Peering in from the outside, someone might conclude that our family had fallen off the back of the American-dream truck with a thud. But from the inside they would observe a tight, comfortable, confident, and grounded family. We owe much of our current state of unity to the fact that we embarked on a journey of becoming more self-sufficient and discovered the importance of resilience and community along the way.
Anyone can do the same. But first, we must lay some groundwork and address the question, "Why prepare?" After that, we can delve into the details.
The Basics of Preparing
Becoming Resilient
In the interests of space, I am not reproducing all of Chris article, Part I - The Basic of Resilience",....please to go his web site and read both Part I and Part II.
It seems it is becoming more and more mainstream to have some type of preparation in place for, what we call "the pending collapse" and what others call "possible disruptions in society or the economy".
Chris Martenson does not bill himself as an economist. He tells people that he's a trained research scientist, and a former Fortune 300 VP. Most importantly, though he notes,....he's a concerned citizen.
Chris says that the next twenty years are going to look very different from the last twenty years. It is a worth a look at his site, http://www.chrismartenson.com/
Martenson talks about "Self Resilience". About having good water sources,...about being able to grow your own food.....about making our lives easier and just plain simple.
I like what I read on this site especially when he talks about for preparing for societal or economic disruptions,....that there is night and day difference between "being zero percent self-reliant and 3 percent".
This rings true to me since I field alot of questions from people on "Survival Preparation" and many of them decide not to get prepared in any form or fashion believing that they are either too late to get started, or whatever they do won't be enough,....so why bother?. Yeah, I know a defeatist attitude when I see it, but as I learned in my business, "You can't want it more than they do".
I posted pieces of what Chris writes below:
It can feel pretty personally overwhelming to learn about all the economic, environmental, and energy challenges in store for us for the rest of this century. There's plenty of work to be done by governments and businesses, sure—but what about preparing yourself and your family for this quickly changing world? The choices seem overwhelming. Where does one begin?
Six years ago, I began to address these questions for myself and my family. I'll be honest; my first motivation came from a place of fear and worry. I worried that I could not predict when and where an economic collapse might begin. I fretted that the pace of the change would overwhelm the ability of our key social institutions and support systems to adapt and provide. I darkly imagined what might happen if a Katrina-sized financial storm swept through the banking system. I was caught up in fear.
But I am no longer in that frame of mind. Here, six years later, I am in a state of acceptance about what the future might bring (although I am concerned), and I have made it my life's work to help others achieve a similar measure of peace. While I am quite uncertain about what might unfold and when, I am positive that anyone can undertake some basic preparations relatively cheaply and will feel better for having done so.
I am passionately interested in helping others to gracefully adapt their lifestyles and adjust their expectations to a very different-looking sort of future. I have no interest in scaring you further, or having you approach the future with trepidation, anxiety, or fear. Quite the opposite. I want to let you know that adjusting and adapting can be one of the most rewarding and fulfilling journeys you could undertake. It has been so for our family.
Just so you have a sense of the scope and the pace of these changes in our lives, I should mention that in 2003 I was a VP at a Fortune 300 company, forty-two years of age with three young children (the oldest was nine), living in a six-bedroom waterfront house, and by every conventional measure I had it all. Today I no longer have that house, that job, or that life. My "standard of living" is a fraction of what it formerly was, but my quality of life has never been higher. We live in a house less than half the size of our former house, my beloved boat is gone, and we have a garden and chickens in the backyard.
Peering in from the outside, someone might conclude that our family had fallen off the back of the American-dream truck with a thud. But from the inside they would observe a tight, comfortable, confident, and grounded family. We owe much of our current state of unity to the fact that we embarked on a journey of becoming more self-sufficient and discovered the importance of resilience and community along the way.
Anyone can do the same. But first, we must lay some groundwork and address the question, "Why prepare?" After that, we can delve into the details.
The Basics of Preparing
Becoming Resilient
In the interests of space, I am not reproducing all of Chris article, Part I - The Basic of Resilience",....please to go his web site and read both Part I and Part II.
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