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Monday, March 7, 2011

Survival Rifle - M4 carbine versus SKS

UrbanSurvvialSkills.com received an Anonymous said... Do I really need an M-4 rifle? I can get an SKS for $339. I know the ammo is more expensive and much harder to obtain, but how much better off am I going to be with an M-4 than an SKS? Thanks.

UrbanMan replies: If you are asking me what weapon would be the better choice for survival and protection, I would say, hands down, the M-4 carbine especially a gas piston version rather than the gas tube version. However, I would not feel slighted in the least with an older gas tube version. In fact, I have several of those.

The reasons I would choose the M-4, or even an AR-15 variant, is that this platform is more accurate than the SKS or the gun that replaced it, the Kalashnikov (AK-47, AKM and variants). Other reasons include: The M-4 in .223 Remington has great ammunition availability; good choice of different bullet configurations from 45 grain frangible, to 55 grain FMJ and tracer, 62 grain steel core penetrator (green tip), and heavier bullets to include the 64 grain PSP, 69 grain JHP and 77 grain JHP; the M-4 uses a detachable box magazine in 20 and 30 round variations and the magazines are plentiful; and, there are wide range of accessories available for this gun.

The SKS is a great gun but not nearly as accurate as the M-4/AR-15 platforms. It’s semi-fixed box magazine allows 10 rounds and then is not as easily to reload and get back into the fight as an M-4. It is a reliable weapon with a great round, the 7.62x39mm also known as the M43 Russian round.

But to really give the best answer I can I would have to know more, such as: Is the SKS or M-4 going to be your only weapon? Are you on a small budget and procurement of the M-4 would take all your funds, not leaving any for other survival equipment or material, particularly food procurement? If the answer is yes, then it would make sense to buy an SKS and an adequate supply of ammunition, say 1,000 rounds, then use the rest of your money to stock food and buy other essential kit for surviving the coming collapse.

I think the best approach for survival on a budget is to spend what you can on immediate needs (these are food, water, shelter and protection) then make future purchases as you can, working off a prioritization list. A firearm is a big purchase. If you procure food in small increments you may not even notice it much. A bag of rice and beans here, a box of bullion there,…..oatmeal, peanut butter, honey are all pretty cheap as well.

So in case I’m confusing you, I would buy the M-4 providing you have the funds to procure in other areas. If not, the SKS may make sense if it allows you to retain money for immediate procurement of food, survival equipment and material and maybe even start buying silver bullion.

Good luck to you and prepare well.

2 comments:

  1. You make a great point sir but I have to respectfully disagree. In an urban setting the engagement distances are going to be relatively short when compared to a “typical” firefight. If the weapon is used from strictly a defensive standpoint (as it should be) then I’d imagine the distances are going to be even shorter. The long distance, and flat trajectory that the 5.56 is known for is not really necessary at such a short distance.
    Also, the M4 has a “bad” look about it. It is demonized in the news, seen as the weapon of mass shooters, and leaves a bad taste in the mouth of people that don’t know any better. I feel such a weapon would be noticed and feared much more than a wooden stock SKS. This notice and especially fear, while it can be a positive, can also be a deadly negative.
    Also, for those that are at least poorly educated with firearms a M4 is going to be an expensive target. Likewise, if someone has an M4, they more than likely have other expensive preps. I can see an M4 user being targeted simply by the perception of what they have. A cheap SKS may not be noticed, or noticed as much
    This is my weakest argument, as the AR15 style platform is available in a variety of calibers, but the 7.62x39 is a very hard hitting round. In an urban setting I would want to have a capability to penetrate various barriers if need be. I know over penetration can be a problem, but I feel that when gunfire breaks out the people not involved are going to move away and the risk of hurting a bystander is going to be negated. Likewise, I hope to be able to at least place rounds close to my target, and not spray them all over.
    At the end of the day though, it is all about shot placement, your individual plan, preferences, and competencies. I absolutely respect your choice and when it’s all said and done this is a pointless argument anyway, I just like to discuss it. : )
    Take care,
    Yank

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