tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post1802693976301467888..comments2024-03-11T15:20:18.145-06:00Comments on Urban Survival Skills: EMP Threat in the NewsCharliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00177364539498093342noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-73693711715181975102012-08-29T04:34:31.594-06:002012-08-29T04:34:31.594-06:00Your blogs and every other content is so entertain...Your blogs and every other content is so entertaining and useful It makes me come back again.<br /><a href="http://www.survival-foods.com" rel="nofollow">survival food and gear</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-23806001369763639622012-08-24T18:40:58.293-06:002012-08-24T18:40:58.293-06:00If you want a low cost/low detection method of dep...If you want a low cost/low detection method of deploying an EMP then consider this. EMP devices attached to high altitude weather balloons launched from cargo ships in the Pacific and Atlantic with GPS and altimeters attached. Once they have reached the proper altitude and location they are remotely detonated. No missile, low to no detection and anybody can buy a weather balloon nowadays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-61135861357717167262012-08-23T19:36:41.355-06:002012-08-23T19:36:41.355-06:00I worked as a consultant BPA and private electric ...I worked as a consultant BPA and private electric generation utilities, I do indeed know and understand the systems and their strengths and weaknessess. About the only thing you got correct is that the surge goes through the system until it finds a weak spot.<br /><br />The intensity of an EMP decreases over distance based on the inverse square law. Distance is it's enemy and a single large EMP device wouldn't be enough to affect even 5% of our electrical grid. It would take at a minimum 24 such devices distributed over the country in an exact grid to have the effect often attributed to EMP devices. Even then it's damage would be spotty mostly due to the fact and EMP is effective in line of sight only and any natural physical barrier would protect electronic equipment. Further the damage would be less dramatic then often expressed probably not to include actual high voltage or distribution lines or transformers. Typical damage would be burnt out fuses/breakers and connections to transformers. In other words the weak spots.<br /><br />We would know where the missile came from before it hit. We would know who was in that location within hours to days and chemical tests on the fallout would tell us who built the bomb, where it was built and within a year or so when it was built. Yes we would know who did it. <br /><br />The real risk, at least as it involves nuclear devices, is a single or multiple devices smuggled into the country in shipping containers and detonated near or in large cities. This is a very real threat and would do considerably more damage then an EMP.<br /><br />An EMP is the most incredibly stupid choice for any nation with the capability to build and use one. It would be a nuclear attack and would invoke a massive retaliatory attack. Any country considering attacking us with nukes would have to go for and hope for a massive suprise attack. This would require at a minimum 2000 nukes and probably 4000 would double the chance of success. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-40450494533641370832012-08-23T14:16:27.697-06:002012-08-23T14:16:27.697-06:00I think your theory relies on an over simplified v...I think your theory relies on an over simplified view of how EMPs and electricity works. It isn't a surge in Cincinnati Ohio, traveling up the grid until it fines a week spot. It's every single inch of cable (miles of which in every generator and transformer) suddenly self immolating in thousands if not millions of volts of electricity as a sudden magnetic field rips the electrons right out of the copper atoms itself.<br /><br />Also, your 200-mile radius estimates are based on the Starfish Prime experiment, which was only one relatively weak bomb, many hundreds of miles away from any city, not detonated at a 'perfect' altitude to create an EMP, and effecting 1960's technology - which was far more robust than what we use today. <br /><br />You’ve also assumed we would know who launched the missiles (subs live underwater…) and failed to account for governments who really don’t care if we know they did it because they have no problem with dying and getting their virgin on with Allah…<br /><br />I would suggest additional reading.<br />Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-34261320338386579052012-08-23T11:17:19.839-06:002012-08-23T11:17:19.839-06:00The EMP threat is totally over rated and hyped. F...The EMP threat is totally over rated and hyped. First of all an EMP attack on the U.S. is an nuclear attack and would result in a nuclear retalliation. THAT would be much worse for everyone then an EMP attack. Second EMP is spotty and not nearly as effective as claimed. At best it might take out 90% of electronics directly below the device and 50% within a 100 mile radius and by 200 miles people would be unaware it even happened. Third the damage is also overstated. The electric distribution system is more robust then most imagine and sudden large surges tend to take out the weak links and fuses and not damage 99.99% of the system. An EMP in the best scenario is unlikely to harm a transfomer. The real risk to transformers is long overloads not micro-second bursts. Power would be restored far quicker then most believe.<br /><br />My theory as to why the EMP is so hyped in prepper circles is simple and logical: It is a preppers wet dream. That is we are left alive. We then survive and even thrive because we prepared. And all those who laugh at us and didn't prepare suffer. Now that is vindication. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-30792711046454636532012-08-22T18:45:08.321-06:002012-08-22T18:45:08.321-06:00PS that 500,000,000 for the entire globe.PS that 500,000,000 for the entire globe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-59490579155803719782012-08-22T18:43:24.888-06:002012-08-22T18:43:24.888-06:00I'm new to your site; yet, I noticed you have ...I'm new to your site; yet, I noticed you have some of Jesse's Con. Theo. links on here. <br /><br />Not to make matters worse; but, have you seen the ones where he tells how the rich/elite are basically going underground and leaving the rest of us to deal with the chaos? D e n v e r A i r p o r t underground city? <br /><br />Also, if you look up Georgia Guideposts or American Stonehenge you will see one of the ultimate goals...Maintain the population under 500,000,000. Based on several things I've seen, there are multiple plans for reducing the population and causing ongoing chaos.<br /><br />The effects of the coming solar flares or CME's (?)/ power grids... can be a problem on up to the end of 2013; as in flares up to that time.<br /><br />As for the F E M A camps. Preppers, Christians, people who protested in anything, etc. are to be picked up and detained.<br /><br />May God Help Us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4709268009452512912.post-29392713067006693912012-08-22T10:58:28.210-06:002012-08-22T10:58:28.210-06:00UrbanMan, I work in the Power Generation world and...UrbanMan, I work in the Power Generation world and one thing not covered in your comments is the huge expense of maintaining a back up inventory for power distribution, IE: Transformers,these are mostly "one of" and manufactured to customer spec. There are literally tens of thousands of these in use and are in various voltages and KVA ratings. It would bankrupt any Power Corporation to build and store spares against an EMP or other event. Couple that to the problem/expense of repairing/replacing the ruined Generating plants and you have an insurmountable problem. Consider this, with the Grid down from an EMP most if not all backup power generators will be damaged. Where do you get the power to run the plants to make new Transformers, Generators, power cabling et al required to rebuild the Grid? It becomes a question of how do you build the tools needed to build the tools to rebuild the Power Infrastructure? It took over one hundred years to put the current infrastructure in place. It will take almost as long to repace it. Just my humble observation. TTFN Phil Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com